Note: This was a fun note. In particular, because it sparked a counter-note from one of my friends (I’ve attached it down the bottom). For the record (and I think its pretty clear), this note is entirely sarcastic. I don’t mean a single word of it. I think I may have been procrastinating instead of doing my law assignment…
Originally posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 at 9:52am
Ok. It’s time to admit it. Natural law arguments are absolute bollocks without the backing of God. There is no such thing as a just secular law, these are enforceable only by the force of state, an utterly illegitimate legal system based upon superior power.
So where do we turn, once we admit this? The solution is to immediately implement a system of laws as commanded by God. But there are so many different systems of law he’s commanded us to obey. I mean its really a testament to the breadth of God’s omniscience that some laws vary from telling us to wear magical underwear (the Mormons), to abstain from flicking light switches on Sundays (the Jews) to sacrificing sheep (most religions pre-2000).
I mean its quite difficult since even within these legal systems there are directly contradictory laws. Say the 1st Commandment (Thou Shalt Not Kill) and the various bits of the Bible where a) God kills b) God advocates genocide, say of the Midianites, adulterers, and people who work on weekends. Also, its a bit difficult to implement some of these laws, like the requirement to love your neighbour. A literal application of such laws may again conflict with laws against adultery and buggery. The alternative is the Lord Atkin approach (in Donoghue v Stephens)… which lead to the law of negligence and the nanny state (which I’ve been told is a big no-no).
But we do have one shining example of a legal system which has not changed, even in the face of a shifting moral zeitgeist or empirical evidence contrary to its claims of efficacy. And that is Sharia law. Because it is based not in fact, but in God. So what if stoning adulterers won’t stop adulterers? God tells us to, so we do. And so it shall Be.
And we cannot forget that it has been actualised into a proper legal system by many countries. Some shining examples of sophisticated jurisprudential countries like Saudi Arabia (birthplace of our dear Osama), Afghanistan (domicile of our dear Osama) and Sudan. It is a triumph of religious prophecy that a text some centuries old may still be relevant to every aspect of life, including politics, economics, science, health (inc surgeries etc) and banking. Truly, praise be to God. Allah Akbar.
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Katrina’s Counter Note
Title: Let’s not impose a law… let’s depend on GRACE
This is a response to John’s recent note, “Let’s Impose Sharia Law”.
I hope John understands this isn’t an attack, but rather, a series of thoughts on some of the issues raised in his note – which was very entertaining and well written, by the way. It’s also because I ran out of space in the comments.
- “I mean its quite difficult since even within these legal systems there are directly contradictory laws. Say the 1st Commandment (Thou Shalt Not Kill) and the various bits of the Bible where a) God kills b) God advocates genocide”
The commandment not to kill was given by God to his people, for them to obey. God himself reigns over all, because he’s the Creator of the universe. ALL life comes through and is sustained by him. Thus, all life is his to take.
Indeed, if you believe the Bible, it says that we’ve all turned our backs on our Creator, and deserve the punishment of death. The only reason God hasn’t struck us all dead already is because of his love for us, his incredible mercy, his grace through Jesus Christ.
- “Also, its a bit difficult to implement some of these laws, like the requirement to love your neighbour. A literal application of such laws may again conflict with laws against adultery and buggery.”
Haha, I’m sure John isn’t serious with this. But say he is … well, love taken literally doesn’t have to mean sex, “adultery and buggery”. If that were so, then what about the fact that people generally love their parents? Their siblings? Hmm, I’ll let you follow that thought to its logical conclusion … :S
Let’s look at the “love your neighbour” phrase within its original context, as stated in the Book of Leviticus 19:18:
“‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbour as yourself.”
Clearly here God is instructing the people of Israel to love one another not in the eros sense, but in the philia sense – love between friends and brothers.
But speaking of love, there’s a third kind – agape, as used within the New Testament, to denote a specific type of love that is unselfish, all-consuming, and indestructible. It’s the love that God has for his people, so much that he sent his own son to die in their place, as atonement for their sins. John 3:16-17:
“For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”
So John, you’re right, laws in themselves don’t work. We can’t rely on laws to be made right with God, because we’re hopeless at obeying them. The Bible recognises that humanity is utterly lost – there’s nothing we can do to make God forgive us.
That’s why I have such joy in Jesus, who died on my behalf and made it possible for me to be forgiven by the Creator of this universe.
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